Even the governor's support might mean little in an effort to strengthen gun-control laws in Pennsylvania, legislators said Tuesday.

Gov. Ed Rendell plans to urge state and federal legislators today to take action on gun control in response to the fatal shootings earlier this month of three Pittsburgh police officers, he said during a visit Downtown. He declined to give specifics until today.

"Our police all over the state, not just in Philadelphia anymore, are simply outgunned," Rendell said while announcing state grants at the Allegheny County Courthouse. "The amount of firepower that the deranged person in Pittsburgh had was stunning. If the AK-47 hadn't jammed, we might have had a lot more dead than just the three officers."

However, even powerful Democratic supporters of gun control in Harrisburg said there likely aren't enough votes to pass any measures. The governor's specifics will be delivered just days after a leading national advocate, Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, said she plans to wait before pushing federal legislation.