Why Is This Guy Still Allowed to Buy Alcohol in Pennsylvania?

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This asshole got arrested for drunkenly ramming his car into an SUV with a pregnant woman and kids inside. This is his second DUI.

Why should he still be allowed to buy alcohol in Pennsylvania? Shouldn’t we create a list of people like this, which alcohol sellers have to check IDs against, who can’t be sold alcohol?

Generalized Prohibition was a bad and unworkable idea, but it seems reasonably easy administratively to do personalized Prohibition for specific problem-drinkers. It’s far from 100% of the solution, but it seems like a pretty good idea. Especially if we could get multiple neighboring states to pass the policy and use the same registry.

And then the rest of us could stop getting treated like children or alcoholics by LCB’s alcohol regulations.

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8 Responses to Why Is This Guy Still Allowed to Buy Alcohol in Pennsylvania?

  1. Albert Brooks says:

    A Do Not Serve List would work fairly well if there was a mandatory age check. Swipe the Driver’s license and the name and address could be compared to the DNSL at the same time age is verified. Another failure of the PLCB that is supposed to protect the citizens, not advertise and try to figure out how to sell more alcohol. You can’t do both well at the same time as shown by our current system.

    Some other questions to ask are why can 18 year olds work in state stores and why do they allow employees convicted of alcohol crimes to continue to work at the PLCB?

    • Mel says:

      Doubtful this could be of any value with so many places to buy alcohol. Are you suggesting every bar would also have to swipe a card before serving a drink? These people that have multiple liquor violations should be locked up and kept away from every driving cars.

  2. J Morhead says:

    Good Question. Does he still have a driver’s license?ANd does he still have vehicle registration plates on his vehicle? Does he still have his proof of vehicle insurance card from his auto insurer? All of these tangible things should have been confiscated and his license revoked. PennDOT is notoriously lax in these measures.

  3. John Rzodkiewicz says:

    Today’s fake IDs swipe just fine so any online database would be pretty worthless. They fakes do have flaws however or the foreign country’s producing them would be in violation of the Geneva convention. You have to know what to look for. Having sat in the grocery store cafe’s with, er, friends, in many parts of the state I’ve observed the clerks swipe a card for every sale but never once looking at the ID for more than a second. Scanners are just false security.
    There is a procedure in place for a do not serve list. The perp must be interdicted by the local District Justice and pictures are posted in the offices of nearby stores.
    Albert, any violation of the liquor code is grounds for immediate dismissal at the LCB. So is sexual harassment BTW.

  4. 13thDistDem says:

    Article says this is his FOURTH DUU

  5. Albert Brooks says:

    I guess DUI doesn’t count as a violation of the Liquor Code does it? What constitutes dismissal for violation of the liquor code has nothing to do with civil conviction of alcohol crimes. You might as well say murder will get you dismissed too – it is meaningless to the discussion.

  6. Having 4 DUI’s in pretty indefensible and it makes me sick to think about what happened, but I’m not sure that banning the sale of alcohol to somebody would not stop them from drinking alcohol. Your logic that prohibition on the micro level would be successful is not sound or based in fact — merely an assumption. I can also see a couple of nasty unintended consequences of this legislation. For starters, I’m certain that this law, like most other criminal justice laws, would disproportionately affect already discriminated against minorities, and would probably lead to some huge underground liquor operation. What’s wrong with a breathalyzer on the car?

  7. What exactly is the “problem” here?

    I agree that causing property damage, and putting lives at risk is very bad.

    But the proposed solution would never work. How do we stop someone else from buying alcohol and giving it to him? That’s exactly how underage drinking thrives.

    The real problem is the broken government justice system. Government is in charge of writing and enforcing the laws, and policing and ensuring safety on the roads. They fail massively, every day. Yet the solution is to give them more control, more power, more money, more influence? No thanks.

    Also we could all stop being treated like children by the PLCB by…. Ending the PLCB